......before the same thing happens to the Conservative Christians..... in fact in many places, like in apartment pools, it's already occuring. Ladies aren't allowed to swim in their modest swim suits because of stupid reasons. Unfortunately, many people are ignorant when it comes to modest swim wear. They don't even realize that, that swim attire is made of the exact same material as the immodest suits. Go figure...
Wow...look at the last sentence of this last paragraph...."France is home to Europe's largest five million Muslim population. In 2004, it passed a law banning students from wearing veils and other religious symbols in school."
I can't imagine being banned from wearing a covering. They'd have to haul me off to prison before I bow down at man's feet and listen to them...lol. It is better to obey God rather than men.
French ban Muslim woman from pool for wearing 'burkini' swimsuit
A French woman who converted to Islam has been banned from wearing a "burkini" in a swimming pool outside Paris.
The woman, named only as Carole, 35, was told that the garment, a swimsuit that covers most of the body, was "inappropriate" clothing for a public baths.
Pool staff said her three-piece Islamic swimsuit she bought in Dubai - consisting of a headscarf, tunic and trousers - was against pool regulations and unhygienic.
They had "reminded her of the rules that apply in all [public] swimming pools which forbid swimming while clothed," said Daniel Guillaume, a manager at the pool in the suburb of Emerainville.
The ban was imposed as President Nicolas Sarkozy's government is considering an outright ban on all Islamic dress, such as the head-to-toe burka or niqab, that it considers a "sign of subservience" and "not welcome" in France.
"Burkini" is derived from the words bikini and burka.
Carole, who converted to Islam aged 17, said that one lifeguard had initially given her permission to wear the garment.
She said: "When I bought it I was told it would afford me the pleasure of swimming without revealing my body, which is what Islam recommends.
"I called three swimming pools in my area and a lifeguard of one at Emerainville asked me to come and put my burkini on so he could make up his mind.
"He saw no problem with it, but warned me he alone would not have the final decision."
She bought a season ticket for the pool for herself and her children and was initially allowed to swim several times.
But on Aug 1, she was suddenly banned from wearing the burkini because it was against hygiene regulations.
Yannick Decompois, the district swimming pools director, said: "This has nothing to do with secularism, but is a simply a hygiene problem. For the same reasons men are also banned from wearing shorts."
"The error was to have let her through in the first place," he said.
Carole, however, said she was "made to understand it was a political problem".
"For me, it's segregation and I am going to fight to try and change things," she said.
Earlier this year Mr Sarkozy invoked the wrath of radical Muslims in France and abroad by saying burkas "debased women" and were not welcome in France.
"We cannot accept to have in our country women who are prisoners behind netting, cut off from all social life, deprived of identity," he added.
André Gérin, a Communist MP, who is heading a parliamentary commission looking at whether to ban the burka, yesterday said the burkini was "militant provocation" and should be banned.
"There is a political and militant project behind this outfit - perhaps even gurus who are whispering to her to play the victim and publicise her complaint," he told Le Parisien.
Some swimming pools had already caved into women-only sessions, he said, but this was apparently "not sufficient for fundamentalists".
"What they want is a world of burkas," he warned.
France is home to Europe's largest five million Muslim population. In 2004, it passed a law banning students from wearing veils and other religious symbols in schools.
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Did you also know that some states right here make women remove their headcovers for drivers license photos? Even if it doesn't obscure their faces. Now that is not right.
Yes I know.
Thankfully I didn't have to remove mine here in Texas.
Had I did though I would have been all over them.
I wonder what these states that do that, would they force a woman with cancer to remove her covering as well? Ya know?
If a covering doesn't conceal the face, then there should be no big deal about it. Period.
See this is where I have issue on this topic. We in America live in a free country. Our country is unique and is not like any other country on the planet. France on the other hand is not like America. They can and do come down on certain religions and cultures and their government is such that it allows for this.
Though I have no issue with what she is wearing I can't help but wonder why she would be dismayed when it is clear what the government feels about this attire. She knows... she lives there. There are plenty of countries she can live that imbrace this attire (such as America). She would be free to dress this way.
It's the same with our health care reform debate that is going on now. If people want socialized medicine and government there are plenty of countries to choose from. To the right, left and all around us we are surrounded with socialist countries.
So even though I feel for this woman I do wonder why people getting upset or shocked. France it what it is and they are not going to change especially because since their borders have been wide open they have been swamped with muslims which was not like that years ago. It's a shock to their system and they are taking messures to control the control they are trying to have on Frances altimate rule.
I know it sounds harsh but this is the reason people move to different states or countries. To be with like minded individuals. If you're a city girl your not going to go live in the country.
Christine,
Sometimes people can't just up and move just like that, ya know?
The article said she converted over to the Muslim faith. So she is new in this new found walk she has.
Maybe a fellow Muslim sister forgot to warn her about the pool thing, who knows....
But it takes money and resources to just pack up and move to a location where there is no persecution.
Hopefully she is saving up so she can get out of that place.
Germany is rather Muslim friendly. :)
Yes I agree with you it's not easy to just up and leave. I didn't consider that factor. I just hear these stories and think to myself we'll it's not like your just dressing modest or covering your hair. I mean some of these women you can only see their eyes. How do you know who is really underneath that clothing?
My family lived in Muslim countries all their lives as did my husband and his family. We had no choice but to assimilate to their cultural/social requirements to cover as they do. We never complained because that was their law. We weren't given a choice living in Syria, Iran, and Egypt. If we didn't like it we'd have to leave and that is what we did. It took years but we did it.
It seems today everyone has something to complain about and I guess I just get in a tizzy when they do. But that is what is so wonderful that we all have a free mind to think and feel as we wish.
Christine, that woman was a French Muslim convert, why should she leave her home country?
We in the EU regard France as the "loose cannon" and most EU states disagree with French policies regarding war, neutrality and religion.They are current trying to force Ireland to bend to their will so that the EU can become military like America and its not working.I missed the chance to vote no last time, but I shall vote no again.
I don't see America as a free country.The illegally detained people in Guantanamo Bay are hardly free.As for this socialism nonsense, health care for all is hardly socialist or communist.I know people who lived under communism and I assure you that health care for all is definitely not communist.I enjoy free health care despite the fact as a student I pay no tax.
I don't normally comment on Dawn's blog, but I felt compelled to post when I saw Christine's comments.Please don't think I'm attacking you Christine, I just needed to clarify things.
Dawn, I'm from the amish-and-mennonite yahoo group.Occasionally I pass by your blog.
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