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Thursday, December 3, 2009

Yahshua's birth - December 25th debunked


Christmas day 2007 I sat around my Christmas tree opening presents and thought 'what in the world are we celebrating, JESUS, wasn't even born on this day?'
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Who knew from that day on, He would have His hand on my heart and mind to find out the truth.
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As a society we have been led to believe that we don't know the exact date of Yahshua's birth and that is what is ingrained in our minds year after year.
December 25th has been the 'accepted' time and people accept it as Bible truth.
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There are some of us though, who get tired of being spoon fed the same old diatribe year after year so we take it upon ourselves to find the truth of a matter. It's amazing the things that happen when you say 'Yahweh, I want to know the truth, show it to me' and He ends up showing it alright, in a big way. =)
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And that's what I did concerning this subject. All you need is your Bible and some basic history about Judaism and you can easily see that Yahshua was not born December 25th, or even in the winter season.
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There were gods who were born on December 25th but it sure wasn't the Messsiah.
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"Well if JESUS wasn't born December 25th, when was He born smarty pants?' you may be saying...
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The Feast of Tabernacles / Sukkot which are fall (normally around September) holidays.
Here's my proof....
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* During Yahweh's birth, shepherds were tending their flocks in the field, at night (Luke 2:8).
That alone rules out His birth in the winter.
The time of pasturing in Palestine, begins (according to Talmudists) in March, and lasts till November, when the herds are brought in from the fields and kept under shelter till the close of February (Phillip Schaff - History of the Christian Church).
The flocks are indoors during December because it's too cold.
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* It is most likely Yahshua was conceived on Chanukah (Festival of Lights, Feast of Dedication)
Remember this fact, because it will come into play as I go on. =)
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When John the Baptist was conceived and born plays a HUGE part in determining the general time frame of Yahshua's birth.
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* Read Luke 1:5-25
When the angel, Gabriel, appeared to Zacharias as he was ministering in the Temple, it was during the ministration of Abiyah (Abia). This order of priests ministered in the Temple the eighth week of the Hebrew year according to the ordinance of 1 Chronicles 24:10 (and according to the Talmud). The eighth week transverses the last week of the second Hebrew month of Iyar and the first week of the third Hebrew month of Sivan, which culminates at Shavuot (Pentecost). This is the anchor point for discovering the exact time of Messiah Yeshua's birth. The angel promised Zachariah that his prayer had been answered, and when he went home to his wife Elizabeth she conceived. This puts the conception of John the Baptist very near the time of Shavuot, the Feast of Pentecost, in the second week of the month of Sivan, the third Hebrew month.
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*At the close of the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy the angel Gabriel appeared to Mary. Gabriel told Mary about Elizabeth, saying "she who was called barren is six months pregnant," This would be the last of the ninth Hebrew month called Kislev at the time of Chanukah. There are 27 weeks weeks between the end of discourse of Abiyah and the start of Chanukah (Dedication), which is celebrated eight days, from Kislev 25 to Tevet 2.
Mary accepts the word of the angel concerning the conception of Messiah in her, and she goes to the home of Elizabeth and Zachariah.
Upon Mary's greeting to Elizabeth, Elizabeth responds to Mary, calling her "the mother of my LORD". This proves that Mary was already pregnant with Yahshua. Thus, Yeshua was conceived at Chanukah, the Festival of Lights, for He is the Light of the World.
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* Read Luke1:56-80
Mary stayed with Elizabeth for 3 months, which was until the birth of John
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Since a full pregnancy term is 41 weeks, and 27 weeks makes up the first six months (two trimesters), which is exactly the time from the discourse of Abiyah to Chanukah, that leaves 14 weeks to accomplish the last trimester and bring the pregnancy to full term. There are exactly 14 weeks from Chanukah to Passover.
John the Baptist was born at Passover.
He was circumcised on the eighth day, which would be the last day of Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread.
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*Nisan , when John was born, is the 1st month of the Hebrew year.
Mary conceived 6 months after Elizabeth conceived, which means Yeshua's birth would have to come 6 months after John's birth, during the 7th Hebrew month called Tishri.
Since we know that John was born at Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread, we learn the time of Yeshua's birth by counting 6 Hebrew months from Passover.
The Feast of Unleavened Bread begins on Nisan 15 and 6 months later Tabernacles begins on Tishri 15.
Yahshua was born on the first day of Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles).
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*The Feast of Tabernacles -- Take a look at Leviticus 23: 34-43. It's awesome and you will see how it all ties in!
YHWH commanded that Israel should observe it 8 days. They were to build temporary dwellings called a sukkah (booths) and dwell in them.
These sukkahs were erected to house families with some bare comforts and food for the eight days. Food was placed in a stall or a crib for storage in the tabernacle. The KJV Bible calls this food crib a manger.
Yeshua was not born in a barn, but rather in a temporary tabernacle which had been built for the celebration.
This celebration would explain why there wasn't any room at the inn. It's because folks had come from all over to observe this Feast and had taken all the rooms.
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* An AWESOME tidbit of info...turn with me to John 1:14. It says "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth".
That world "dwelt", in the Greek means:

to fix one's tabernacle, have one's tabernacle, abide (or live) in a tabernacle (or tent), tabernacle
to dwell
Pretty cool, eh? =) He was made flesh and tabernacled among us. HalleluYAH!
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* One last AWESOME tidbit before I close. We are going to be keeping the Feast of Tabernacles in the New Kingdom.
Turn with me to Zechariah 14: 16-19.
" And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King; the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles".
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"Jesus is the Reason for the Season?" Our Saviour and His birth have nothing to do with Christmas.
Would you like someone celebrating your birthday, when it's not your birthday at all?
The Feast of Tabernacles / Sukkot is about celebrating His birth, celebrate His glorious coming then, in the fall.
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"Keep Christ in Christmas!" He has NOTHING to do with Christmas my friends. You do know Christmas is nothing more than a pagan holiday that's been "Christianized", right?
Celebrate the day if you want, but let's stop dragging our Messiah into a pagan holiday.
Why not do a search and find out how Christmas originated, or better yet, if you haven't already, watch the videos I posted in my last blog post.
It's a known fact that the early church did not have anything to do with "Christmas". That "holiday" didn't come into the Roman church till the 4th century.
Our Saviour's birth got sucked into all that mess which has now morphed into the Christmas that we know today.
So, my question to you is, will you keep celebrating a day that Yahshua was not born on and has nothing to do with, or will you take the time to do your own research like I have and get to the heart of the matter.
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Time is running out friends. It's time you seek the Truth out while you can.
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Yahshua will show you the Truth if you will let Him. Will you let Him?
We as Christians need to quit justifying and distorting truth from fables.
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Shalom from a chilly Texan!
~ Dawn
P.S. I didn't post this to look down my nose at anyone who celebrates Christmas (thought I would get that in there before somebody told me I was "judging" or "condemning" them, because I am not).
I am showing you the facts and TRUTH of a Biblical subject. You can take it, study up more on it or leave it. Your choice.
It's high time we wake out of our slumber satan has cast upon us. I am just ringing the warning bell in hopes to wake us up.
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Jeremiah 10 is a reminder from Yahweh to "Learn not the way of the heathen"...it goes hand in hand with Mark 7:9 - " And He (JESUS) said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of GOD, that ye may keep your own tradition".

11 comments:

Charisms on Campus said...

first off, December 25 is not the birthdate of other gods, it was the solstice (23) which was the pagan festival people associate with the corruption of xmas. The reason it all got messed up was because of the adoption of the Gregorian calendar too. Even if we know the exact date of Yeshua' birth, it doesn't mean we have to celebrate it then. YHVH NEVER commanded we observe His birth.

It's a season of remembrance and preparation for our souls. Think of it this way, our new year is Jan. 1, but the Jewish new year is different and so is the chinese new year. does that mean those traditions are now all evil? No we use them as a marker for time in our lives; as a day to stop the chaos, pause, and re-evaluate our choices! That's what advent is all about, I am trying to focus on the Lord and His coming (both in the past and in the years to come) and I can do that on ANY day of the year. You know why? Because Yeshua died once for my sins. The OT, while it's great to observe for the love of Adonai, does jack now. It cannot justify me, it cannot save me. I can celebrate Christmas on april 2, july 18, or dec. 25 and guess what? I'll still be saved.

What if my birthday was on the date of a Hindu holiday? Is it now illegal and evil to remember the day I was born? I went through this phase a few years ago. I condemned all things pagan, but it passes. Because in time, you forget Yeshua and his sacrifice and you become obsessed with doctrines.

May YHVH guide you~

Dawn said...

Mithra of Persia, Horus of Egypt, and Buddha share the birthdate of 12/25 or so sources claim, hence the reason I wrote what I did.

Actually I am not becoming obsessed with doctrines, just that my eyes are being opened as He leads on various subjects.

And this isn't a phase.
But I am used to having other Christians tell me that.
When I was convicted of modest dress and not wearing any make up or jewelry, I was told it was a phase. That was in 2001. Still modest, no makeup or jewelry and it's almost 2010.
When YHWH called me to cover and go Plain, Christians sneered at me and told me it wouldn't last.
That was in 2006.
Here I am 4 years later.

So, a phase, this in not. =)

motherofmany said...

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If you read your Bible, you will see Yah instituted his own calendar system from the beginning, and it was changed after Yeshua's birth. And he fortells of a time when men will be so evil, they will try to play G-d by changing times and seasons via antichrist (Daniel 7).

It is completely different when something started out as benign and was made evil. That's not what we're talking about here. Something was begun as evil and then adopted by the church as a compromise. We are not to learn the way of the pagan or offer strange fire.

There is a ministry called Ascension Ministris by Norm Franz. He goes through the historical aspects of the holidays as well as their prophetic sugnificance. I recommend the Mystery of Christmas. Unlike a lot of other ministers, he uses citation and points to secular evidence of these things as well (if the world claims they embrace it, who are you to say they don't?).

It is right to focus on the L-rd, but in HIS time and HIS way. He must be worshipped in spirit and in TRUTH. You only forget his sacrifice when you abandon HIS sabbaths.

The Bible also fortells of a time at the end when his spirit will be poured out and people will turn back to the W-rd, while others fall into traditions and apostasy. Which of those is the foundation of X-mas?

Anonymous said...

wow!

Anonymous said...

I don't know if you have any interest, but my husband brought home an interesting DVD. I am sure you can find it online (maybe even watch it online) or at your local library (maybe a video store). It's called "The Star of Bethelhem". You can go to the website www.bethlehemstar.net. The man is an attorney and his daughter wanted a Christmas display on their front lawn. She wanted the Magi and the star. He started to wonder about the star and it took him into an intense study on the star that God sent to light the way. He has an interesting take on the probable actual birth date of Yeshua.

I am a new reader, and am having such a nice time looking around your blog. I am enjoying my time here and will mark it in my bookmarks to return to often. Thank you.

seven said...

Dawn, you had a comment on simple living alaska and that is how I found your site. My husband and I have been digging into this for nearly two years now. Tons of the information I got was from the History Channel's website. If anyone has doubts about the origins of Christmas and wants to get information from a secular source, it's there. I'm saying this because we keep getting told that we get our information from only certain people with these beliefs. We are still doing Christmas this year, traditions and memories are hard to break. Please pray for us. We've heard it all, too. We have been actually told by a pastor that we were getting to legalistic. Our family tells us "it's just a phase", too. Dawn, thank you for sharing these things with us. Please pray for our family, that we could let tradition go and only think about serving YHWH, not ourselves. Kimberly

Dawn said...

I don't know why I hadn't thought of the History Channel for more proof...duh me...
Probably because we don't have cable and I don't watch television...I have no idea what's going on in TV land these days...frankly don't care. =)

Will pray for you Kimberly. Stay strong being built up by God's Word and let the Holy Ghost guide you. You won't be steered wrong.

The Bible warns us not to fall for every wind of doctrine.
Also tells us there will be a great falling away before Yahshua returns.
Only a remnant will remain.

~ Our Family is His~

Welcome to mt blog dear one!
Sorry I don't update it as often as most bloggers.
I have been back and forth time and again about shutting the blog down and moving on, but for some reason I keep it up and going.
Figure I will use it to show the world what Yahweh is teaching me, even though it may not be popular.

Weekend blessings to you both!

seven said...

We don't do television either! It came up when I googled "origin of Christmas". I looked this year and they actually changed it. It seems like last year The History Channel gave a lot more information on this subject. Anyway, thanks again for your blog, it really causes me to think and THAT is a good thing.

Morning Glory Coffee Break said...

I also have recently believed as you do. about the same time .I don't like what people believe (most in ignorance)Christmas is pagan and it has been years with me as well. I also was called to cover and dress really modestly. I get alot of grief over this but I am still doing it also. When I am convicted , I need to follow it and put it into practice , no matter what others say or think. Good for you, I'm right there with you sister in Christ. God Bless

Anonymous said...

Dawn,
Thanks for your blog and your work here. I feel we are going through so many of the same things at times. YHWH seems to be calling many of us the same direction. Keep up the good work, and thanks for your prayers.

Also I noticed that, Kimberly from Idaho, mentioned a pastor said they were getting to legalistic. A wise person once told us to never dismiss obedience for legalism.

Blessings

Victoria said...

Dawn, the faith of Christians doesn't stand or fall according to the date Christmas is celebrated. Talk about straining at gnats! lol In Australia we celebrate Queen Elizabeth's birthday in June when her real birthday is in May I think and other countries celebrate her birthday at other times. Just because her official birthday is celebrated at a different time to her real birthday doesn't mean that the monarchy will collapse! lol

It's been a while since I read your blog, have you converted to Judism if so does that mean the Robert will have to be circumcised?